Okay...heres the deal. I have been wanting to learn how to deep throat so I could know what it would be like. So a site on dp advised getting a jelly ***** that was 1.5 to start, and this was the longest one I could find that was that size. Well, it worked! Since it was so smooth, I could slide it down my throat easily and work it in and out, deeper...getting used to it. And it didnt take long before I was able to take it in at least 9...past that gagging point, so I know I can take even more. I do wish that I could have found a 1.5 jelly that was 18 long, because I would like to take at least 12 down my throat. But, again, this is great for training phase 1, and then I guess I will get an 18 that is 1.75 and see how that goes.